ANSI/ASNT CP, ASNT Standard for Qualification and Certification of regarding various provisions of CP and the responses from the ASNT Standard. ASNT Standard for Qualification and. Certification of NDE Personnel. (ANSI/ ASNT CP). Since SNT-TC-1A is a “recommended practice” or a set of. ASNT obtained ANSI accreditation to process this document through a consensus balloting process that would recognize ASNT CP as a.
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Powered by mwForum 2. Not logged in American Welding Society Forum. By supermoto Date I tried to do some research on here and other places but I couldn’t find anything which states CP was required except in some NRC documents and random employers written practice. The intent was to produce a new document that provided strict requirements rather than simply guidelines. When a company decides to follow CPthey must accept all the requirements of that standard, with little or no adjustment or leeway and the relevant training requirements!
As to where it is used, well that is dictated by client and contract specifications I would guess, cl most likely boiler and pressure vessel type fabrications!
Thanks for your response.
I know the reason for creating it and being more stringent as a standard an not a recommended practice. Sounds like there may not be a specific code or standard that requires it other then customer may require it. By ssbn Date Each category specifies visual applications and is available at levels 1 or 2 with specific criteria pertaining to eligibility of trainers and prospective level 3 persons.
Not all code or standards require anso but how else do you assess the competence of test personnel? An age-old phrase of justification is that of “continued satisfactory performance” but what does this mean?
Is this a quantifiable value or a misnomer of accuracy? Surely by virtue of demonstrating continuous performance by an internal or external means of assessment, automatically achieves traceability and quantification.
But this approach is little short of the ahsi process advocated by many as costly and unnecessary. Certification schemes are available to operate as company internal quality measures with internal or external moderation.
Certification in accordance with EN and ISO is differs from those previous by classification as central certification in a similar vein to college examination bodies. Although both routes to certification have attributes and detriments they do ensure adequate coverage of all industrial needs with flexible options to address specific requirements.
Should you require any further guidance on any of the points mentioned in this paper please contact Lavender International NDT Ltd. Both exist as parallel programs available for a contractor to specify and a sub contractor to adopt.
It differs significantly in several areas. A brief list of some of the major differences below: This cannot be reduced in rigidity to suit company requirements dictated by CP Again it must be approved by the Level III.
Vision Requirements – The vision requirements for near vision acuity are more stringent in CP requiring acuity to read the Jaeger 1 instead of Jaegar 2.
Levels of qualification – There are 5 levels of qualification instead of 3 the additional 2 being “Instructor” and “Trainee”. Level III examinations also require a procedure be prepared for the practical exam. Again this is not a comprehensive list of the differences, but simply the “major” fundamental differences in the concepts By far the most important fundamental difference is in the concept that CP is a national standard and must be treated as a minimum requirement not simply a set of guidelines which may be altered This is reflected throughout the 2 documents by the choice of verbs used CP uses “shall ” throughout to emphasize a mandatory requirement”, whereas SNT – TC – lA uses the verb ” should” to emphasize a recommendation” So basically there’s no requirement from ASNT to use one system over the other because that decision is up to the contractor to make and the subcontractor to follow However, the owner, customer should be aware of the differences between a set of recommended guidelines and an actual ANSI approved by consensus American National standard in order to make the right choice in choosing between the 2 parallel certification schemes offered by ASNT Clear as Oktoberfest Beer eh?
By Date In that case it is a contractual obligation. Best regards – Al.
ASNT Standards and Practices
I concur Al, Here’s an interesting synopsis covering both the guidelines and the standard: In the early s, ASNT established a technical committee to set up guidelines for the qualification and certification of NDE testing personnel that employers could follow.
SNT-TC-1A is not a mandatory standard or code but rather is an employer-based program with recommended guidelines for initial training, experience and ansii of NDE personnel for qualification and certification. The ASNT Recommended Practice is used in many industries, including oil and gas, transportation, power plants, construction, bridge fabrication, and bridge inspection. Qualification and certification of NDE personnel is a aasnt of training, experience and examination and is based on the technology or test method.
For an individual to become certified in multiple test methods, each method must be represented by method-specific training, experience and examinations. SNT-TC-1A outlines recommended requirements for initial classroom training, on-the-job experience hours, and recommendations for the general, specific and practical examinations.
The document intends that employers will create their own programs based on their business streams and needs by developing a written asng. The downside is that the employer-based program is often abused, resulting in a lower level of achievement than what the program had intended.
Employers are sometimes under pressure to put certified NDE technicians to work and keep their personnel billable. Additionally, ASNT does not have an audit function to assure that compliance to the intent of the document is met.
People who perform an audit of an NDE certification program are often not specialists in the field or are not thoroughly familiar with the original intent of the employer-based program.
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Written with the intent of becoming a national standard, CP offered an alternative to SNT-TC-1A with more rigid requirements, rather than guidelines. Employers may simultaneously put both programs in place within their businesses. However, CP requires a certification procedure rather than a written practice. Another cl is in the visual acuity exams: The CP outlines five levels anso certification rather than three. CP adds certification levels of trainee and instructor.
This certification meets the requirements for the basic and method specific examination, leaving only the practical examination to be administered by the employer. CP also requires that the candidate prepare a test procedure as part of the practical examination. Of course, the most fundamental difference to remember is that CP is a standard that details minimum requirements, while SNT-TC-1A is a set of recommendations for an employer-based program.
Oh btw, this is from the February issue of Quality Magazine: My question is what are the requirements for PdM since either don’t have any formal training or experience hour requirement. The PdM certification ssnt all of either have very few references and information for this certification.
I found through PdMprofessionals. I’m only asking because it seems silly to even reference the certification if they cl have any specific qualifications and also I wan’t to know as much as possible since it may come up on the Level III basic exam. San Francisco – Section Rochester – Section Colorado – Section Puget Sound Olympic – Section Ansii – Section Nebraska – Section North Florida – Section Florida West Coast – Section Nevada – Section